Weller... looking for the Swans!
Swan in Germany mythology
article: https://www.germany101.com/page/literature_art_myths_legends
Could Weller be from Walah? Celtic?
“ • The Germanic tribes in the North called them Walah, meaning "foreigner", "stranger", "Roman" or "Celtic-speaker". Variations of "Walah" are still prominent today in names for places or tribes like "Wales", "Walachia", "Walloons" and in many German names like Walchensee. Changed to "welsch" it is still the designation of foreign and suspicious people speaking Romanic languages (like the French or Italians) in parts of Germany and particularly Austria.”
This story, below, by Hieronymous WvM about Nicol, seems to be about the same incident about Frederick II's sons (princes) being kidnapped, as the dates and the kidnapper, and other elements of the story are the same.
Also, Schwanfelder... and the coat of arms, and where they came from ... who was the man in the story who was wed to the lady in waiting? And what is the connection between Weller/Schwanfeld, the swans symbolism, and Martin Luther?
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Treaty_of_Leipzig
The sons divide the lands.
https://saebi.isgv.de/biografie/Hieronymus_Weller_von_Molsdorf_%281499-1572%29
https://www.kleio.org/de/geschichte/renaissance/frauen/anna-weller/
BOOK:
MDXC Roman Numerals in numbers is 1590
Anna* Von Leibnitz, Mätresse des Herzogs von Sachsen (born Weller von Molsdorf), born 1448
Nicol --first Weller von Molsdorf? according to Hieronymous WvM (see below)
https://www.geni.com/people/Nickel-Weller-von-Molsdorf/6000000023512187127
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Hieronymus Weller von Molsdorf | |
Birthdate: | September 5, 1499 (72) |
Birthplace: | Freiberg, Chemnitz, Saxony, Germany |
Death: | Died March 20, 1572 in Freiberg, Chemnitz, Saxony, Germany |
Immediate Family: | Son of Hans Weller von Molsdorf and N.N. Weller von Molsdorf |
Managed by: | Private User |
Last Updated: | October 2, 2016 |
From the Webpage: http://genforum.genealogy.com/weller/messages/848.html
Here is the legend of the German Weller name origin, as written by Heironymous Weller in the early 16th century:
Origin of the names WELLER and VON MOLSDORFF, and the symbolism of the family coat of arms, was described by Dr. Hieronymus Weller von Molsdorff (1499 - 1572). The story was transcribed for publication by the German historian Cyrus Spangenberg, and was published in 1590.*
"I (Hieronymus) want to give my opinion that the name Molsdorff came from the words mahlen and vermahlen (getting married or to be married)... This definition is in agreement with the ancient narrative about the noble aristocrat Schwanfelder, his wife, family, and their ancient Coat of Arms.
"There was a King of Thuringen who had one true and faithful serving man, named Schwanfelder. The young Schwanfelder fell in love with one of the Queen's serving maids... and the Queen said that in her opinion the young maiden should marry Schwanfelder if she herself wished to do so. The Queen said that there would be an opportunity to discuss this with the King when they were gathered together on a hunting trip which was being arranged... Thus it came to pass that, with the approval of his King and Queen, Schwanfelder proposed marriage to the young maiden whom he loved. Without a moment's hesitation she accepted him and they stood before the King's chaplain and were married. A twig from a nearby tree was placed on the head of Schwanfelder. This new bridegroom, who was so blessed with happiness and honors, had not a ring to place on the finger of his bride. The King drew from his own finger a golden ring with a large ruby and gave it to Schwanfelder, who placed it on her finger... The King then gave the young married couple a magnificent gift of a large acreage consisting of woods and meadows surrounding the very spot on which the marriage had taken place. The King thus raised his faithful servant to nobility.
"The noble Schwanfelder named his home Molsdorff and the family Coat of Arms is a picture of the ancient beginnings. The Molsdorff Coat of Arms is a shield of heavenly blue on which two long white upright necks and heads of swans are displayed. The swans face each other and together hold high in their beaks the golden ring with the large ruby setting. Above the shield rests a golden helmet with open face mask, and above this the swans together holding the ruby ring.
"Around the year 1400 one member of the von Molsdorff family lived in Voigtland... In the year 1430 he went to the town of Plauen... and he died about the same year. He had several sons who, after their father's death, divided their inheritance with some receiving land and others money. The youngest son was named Nicol von Molsdorff... The young Nicol chose his part of the inheritance in money. He moved to Freiberg where he bought several mines and many acres of land. He came to great fortune and great honors. So it came about that Nicol von Molsdorff had chosen well to take his inheritance in money which he invested wisely. He was called the Wahler (voter or chooser). Far and near people said The Wahler has hit it lucky, Nicol chose right and invested well. His children later wrote their names as von Molsdorff, called the Wahler. Gradually the von Molsdorff was abandoned. The spelling changed a number of times -- Waller and Woeller were known to have been used.
"It is certain that Nicol Weller von Molsdorff was the first who used the name Weller. Nicol Weller became the Burgermaster of Freiberg. In 1448 he bought the Custom-house at Freiberg. Above the door of the City Hall in Freiberg one can still (1590) see the Molsdorff Coat of Arms.
"Around the year 1450 two young princes of Saxony were kidnapped by Kuntz von Kauffung**. The people of Freiberg captured him and he was held prisoner in the City Hall. He said to Nicol Weller: How, Mr. Burgermaster, is there no justice today? Nicol answered him Today, without necessity, we sit in justice. The kidnapper was executed soon after."
I (Harold Weller) visited Freiberg (near Dresden in the former German Democratic Republic) in August 1988 and saw the City Hall. A carving of the head of Kuntz von Kauffung is prominently displayed on the outside front of the building, but the Molsdorff Coat of Arms cannot be seen from the outside. In the 16th century the building was expanded and original entrance door was enclosed. The Coat of Arms, carved in soft limestone above the door, was thus preserved through the centuries. This photograph was taken in August 1988. The Coat of Arms had been partially restored in that year. Many layers of paint were removed to reveal the form, and some of the original colors, of the Coat of Arms. The left side shows what is believed to be the original layers of paint or dye, while the right side has been repainted to match the left. The entire Coat of Arms is about one foot tall. It is perched above the doorway at about a 45 degree angle to the floor, and its central axis is tilted slightly from right to left as shown in the photograph. The enclosed room in which it is located is on the second floor of the building. It was once used as a chapel, but today (1988) is is only a storage room. Restoration is still in progress.
*History of the Ancient, Esteemed, Noble Family Von Molsdorff called Weller. Published by Georg Baivman, 1590, Erfurt Germany. Restudied and restated with marginal references, and published by M. Christoff Frederick Lammel in 1699, Leipzig Germany. The original copies of both books are said to be located in the German Museum at Nurnberg, Germany.
Schwanfelder = Swan Fields
dorf = village
von = from
1590 = MDXC, I think the guy who sketched the picture above in 1590 didn’t realize that the middle part was actually a golden helmet with open face mask. (Harold Weller's notes)
Hieronymus Weller
from Wikipedia
Hieronymus Weller (* 5. September 1499 in Freiberg , † 20th March 1572 ) was a Protestant theologian and reformer .
Life [ Edit | Edit Source Code ]
The Freigenberg Prophet, as his contemporaries called him, came from an old patrician family , who owned a number of estates in the Plauen region , and also acted as mayor and mayor in Freiberg, and enjoyed a high reputation. Hieronymus lost his father when he was ten years old. He attended the school at Naumburg, and three years later he was able to go to Leucorea in Wittenberg .
At the age of 19 he became a baccalaureus . However, he could not remain in Wittenberg, but had his living as a schoolmaster in Zwickau and Schneeberg deserve. After seven years his noble relatives gave him the opportunity to study further. At this time the inner convulsion which prevailed in Martin Luther's preaching fell .
In 1527 he went to Luther to become a house teacher for his children. While Luther was on Coburg , he was a support to his household. In his vicinity he spent eight years, until he acquired the theological doctorate . The promotion took place in the presence of the English Ambassador Barns, who was in Wittenberg, on 14 September 1535.
The reformation, which had since been carried out in his hometown , led to the construction of a theological edifice , which he took over in 1539. After Nikolaus Hausmann had worked here, it was not difficult for him to get an influential position. Justus Jonas the Elder and Georg Spalatin introduced him to the office on the occasion of the Meissen Church Visitation . His activity at the Gymnasium and his correspondence were extensive.
Remarkably, among other things its interpretation of the house panel of Luther, entitled De officio ecclesiastico, politica et oeconomico libellus pius et eruditus (1552), the first independent treatment of this catechism text which is fundamental to the understanding of Luther's company image. Numerous important preachers of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries followed the example of Wellers, like Cyriacus Spangenberg , Aegidius Hunnius , Johann Arndt, and Johann Conrad Dannhauer, and many others. Also the German translation (1556) of this book by Valentin Winsheim was printed several times. Weller was in constant contact with Luther and Philipp Melanchthon . He did not remain unchallenged anyway. After lecturing for 22 years, as well as biblical explanations, he withdrew more and more, but still participated in all the theological questions of the time. In 1702, he published his spiritual book in two folio volumes.
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/THURINGIA.htm
https://www.google.com/maps/search/schloss+molsdorf/@51.336536,9.4175647,7.28z
??? Looking for the above-mentioned King of Thuringia. https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/GermanyThuringia.htm
1268 | The execution of Conradin of Swabia, last of the Hohenstaufen dynasty, on 29 October 1268 triggers the gradual break-up of that duchy. The heiress of Swabia is Margaret, his father's half-sister. She has been married to Albert, landgrave of Thuringia (and later margrave of Meissen), since 1255, and their son, Frederick, claims Swabia on his mother's behalf. The claim receives little support as Swabia is already disintegrating. | ||
Schloss Molsdorf
Looks like the castle of Beauty and the Beast (not the Disney version). It is a French story, but many fairytales were told all over the world in regional versions.
The area is famous for flowers.
https://www.germanyonthebrain.com/palace-molsdorf-in-erfurt/
https://www.thueringen-entdecken.de/en/-/schloss-molsdorf
Ancestry
https://www.ancestry.com/search/?name=_weller+von+molsdorf
https://www.google.com/search?q=Anna+Barbara+Weller&sxsrf=ALiCzsZbeztyGUPgSffga_VMBryJusLoJg%3A1668112786744&ei=kmFtY7mKLailkPIP0uGliAg&ved=0ahUKEwi5m-WwvKT7AhWoEkQIHdJwCYEQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=Anna+Barbara+Weller&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIFCCEQoAEyBQghEKABMgUIIRCgATIFCCEQoAE6BAgAEEc6BAgjECc6BwguEIAEEA06BggAEBYQHjoKCAAQgAQQhwIQFDoFCAAQgAQ6BwgAEIAEEAo6DQgAEIAEELEDEIMBEAo6BwguEIAEEAo6BwgAEIAEEA06CggAEBYQHhAPEAo6CAgAEBYQHhAKOggIABAIEB4QDToFCAAQhgNKBAhNGAFKBAhBGABKBAhGGABQ5whYrCBghSJoAHADeACAAb4CiAHvDJIBBzAuOS4wLjGYAQCgAQHIAQjAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp
- Freiberger, daughter of Caspar II and Dorothea Weller (von Molsdorf), with Valten Hausmann, Bastian D. Ä. Zeiling
- (Freiberg is the place of Nicol Weller von Molsdorf)
- https://gw.geneanet.org/thomasius?lang=en&iz=309&p=anna&n=freiberger
- Anna Freiberger
- Print Family Tree
- Parents
- Caspar II Freiberger 1437-1482
- Dorothea Weller (von Molsdorf)
- Spouses and children
- With Valten Hausmann 1511-1579 with
- Elias Haußmann ca 1527-1573
- With Bastian D. Ä. Zeiling with
- Half-siblings
- On the side of Caspar II Freiberger 1437-1482
- with Ursula Monhaupt 1432-1494
- Magdalena Freiberger †1532
- Dorothea Freiberger 1455-1518
https://www.geni.com/people/Hans-Weller-von-Molsdorf/6000000042037263215
https://www.myheritage.com/names/anna_weller%20von%20molsdorf
https://gw.geneanet.org/cseeger?lang=en&pz=klaus+peter&nz=seeger&p=hieronymus&n=weller+von+molsdorf
https://www.geni.com/people/Peter-Georg-Weller-von-Molsdorf/6000000023512032319
https://molsdorf.de/tourismus/schloss-molsdorf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuringia
https://www.google.com/search?q=Jacob+Weller+von+Molsdorf+die+Schwanfelder&oq=Jacob+Weller+von+Molsdorf+die+Schwanfelder&aqs=chrome..69i57.505j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Weller
https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Jacob_Weller_(1)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molsdorf
https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~paulrswan/genealogy/Plocher_Lineage.html
Googling: König von Thüringen und Schwanfelder
http://www.archive-in-thueringen.de/en/findbuch/view/bestand/24210/systematik/103005
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Molsdorf_Wappen_013.jpg
English: The coat of arms of the von Mailsdorp family shows two swans' necks looking at each other while holding a ring in their beaks. The von Maisldorp family - presumably Free Imperial Knights - can be traced to the region from 1180. The von Mailsdorp family farm was in what is now Deelen. Over the centuries it split into the independent farms: Genshof, Damianshof and Flockenhof. The coat of arms of the Thuringian town of Molsdorf shows a high degree of agreement.
But This area is close to Dusseldorf, not Schloss Molsdorf !!!
https://www.heraldry-wiki.com/heraldrywiki/index.php/Molsdorf
https://www-rambow-de.translate.goog/weller-von-molsdorf.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
A page about Hieronymous Weller v Molsdorf
Says patrician family orig from Voigtland, moved to Freiburg in 1430.
http://www.silberbach-selb.de/index.php?mb_anzeige_so=gschchtdswllrthls&mb_anzeige_re=wllrthl&mb_anzeige_li=nsrdrf&seite=gschchtdswllrthls&rel_re=nsrdrf&rel_so=wllrthl&pos_so=2&sr=&aktuell=0&za_so=1&rechts_so=0
A very different Weller von Molsdorf family story:
The name Wellerthal goes back to Johann Christoph Weller from Saxony . In 1676, Weller acquired the facilities of the lower Arzberg hammer, which had existed since 1498. After this hammer mill was severely damaged by a flood of the Röslau in 1680 , Weller relocated the iron smelting to the Egertal. Here he had two sheet metal hammers, a blast furnace and a fresh fire built using equipment and machine parts from the Arzberg hammer. The blast furnace, which had been in operation for almost 200 years, was moved from Arzberg to the Wellerthal. As early as 1691, a visitation report emphasizes the excellence of Weller's systems.
Weller was a favorite of the Bayreuth Margrave and was considered the most important industrialist in the margraviate. In 1702 he was appointed chief mining administrator and finally raised to the nobility as Weller von Molsdorf. As early as 1710 he employed 46 workers, and when he died in 1716 there were 22 larger buildings on the hammer mill, plus the manor house with farm buildings, cutting mills, grinding mills, an inn and a brewery.
From 1716 to 1724, Weller's son, Johann Christoph Weller, ran the hammer mill for himself and his co-heirs, sister Maria Catharina, widowed von Paschwitz, and Maria Sophia von Lehenstein. From 1724 to 1735 Maria Catharina von Paschwitz took over the hammer alone, followed by her son Johann Christoph von Paschwitz and later her grandson Joseph Gottlieb Ernst von Paschwitz, who ran the hammer until 1774. At times - around 1750 - there were members on the hammer. Such retainers are more often found on works that belonged to noblemen who, for various reasons, did not feel able to run the business themselves. The tenants were in a kind of tenancy relationship with the owner (see the history of Blumenthal ).
The von Paschwitz family had patronage over the church in Thierstein , and their coat of arms is still attached near the altar. The last from Paschwitz auf Wellerthal was Joseph Gottlieb Ernst, who died in 1774. The widow Charlotte Ernestine Friedericke née von. Muffel married the master hammer Johann Michael Zeidler, who continued to run the Wellerhammer. Other owners are Pastor Scheretz in Arzberg and Andreas Werner from Bohemia. However, the latter was not an expert, but a farmer. He had bought the Hammergut for 60,000 guilders. Under him, the hammer mill fell into disrepair and had to be shut down in 1850.
Finally it came to a foreclosure auction, where the state bought it on October 30, 1853 for 11,000 guilders. In 1860 the state built a sawmill there after demolishing the old mill buildings. Today there is still a forester's house that was managed until a few years ago.
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